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Ep. 101: Racism In The Beauty Industry And Beyond With Ebony Kimbrough


It is July 2020. We have a global pandemic. We have civil unrest. We have corruption in the government coming out. People are afraid to communicate. People are too afraid of saying the wrong thing.


There are a lot of things that have happened in the last month. You've probably learned about a lot of things you were never aware of before. You probably (hopefully) feel the need to speak up and do better than you have in the past but you're scared to start. You don't know where to start.

It's hard having these kinds of conversations but it's important for us to do so anyway. For too long the voices of Black people have been silenced and shoved in a corner. For too long Black people haven't been listened to and cared for by non-Black society. It's time to change that.

To start off the conversation I invited my friend Ebony Kimbrough, PMU artist and microblading educator, to come on the show and talk to us about her experience as a Black business owner. Please give this episode a good listen.

Here are the episode highlights:

‣‣  [05:49]  I want to talk first about the importance of acknowledging all the times when you could've done better and using that acknowledgment to drive yourself to do better now and speak up.

‣‣  [12:43]  Ebony and I talk about the importance of having different experiences as people from different races and ethnicities and sharing those experiences with others.

‣‣  [18:06]  We get into the history of the relationship between the police and Black people and how the institutions that held up slavery still exist today.

‣‣  [20:10]  Here we talk about how different our experiences getting pulled over can be if we're Black vs non-Black.

‣‣  [22:23]  Ebony shares a story of a Black man who called the cops on a white guy who was breaking into his pawnshop.

‣‣  [23:32]  We also talk about Breonna Taylor, who was killed in her sleep in her home in March, and her killers still haven't been held accountable.

‣‣  [24:30]  I share my different experience with police growing up as an immigrant from the Philippines.

‣‣  [28:12]  We get into the topic of having difficult conversations with your children about race. How do you do it? When do you do it?

‣‣  [29:41]  If you're a business owner - do you put your face on the front of your advertisements? Who are you centering? Here Ebony talks about why she can't put her own face on the advertising as the owner of her own school.

‣‣  [32:31]  Admittedly, I'm crying a bit by this point. I can't help but ask Ebony how she remains so confident when so much of the world is fighting against her.

‣‣  [40:35]  Here I unpack my own history with racism as a Filipina immigrant. We dig a bit into the model minority myth.

‣‣  [47:57]  Ebony and I talk about the treatment of Colin Kaepernick and Ebony's thoughts as someone who comes from a military family.

‣‣  [50:03]  Ebony draws comparisons between Kaepernick, Martin Luther King Jr., the Black Panther Party, and the KKK.

‣‣  [55:03]  We discuss how traumatizing it is to be able to see yourself, your family, and your experiences so visibly in the footage of Black people being murdered by police on television or the internet.





I can't say enough how grateful I am to have been able to sit down with Ebony Kimbrough and talk about her experience as a Black business owner in the beauty industry. You can keep up with her and her permanent makeup school EK Professionals right here!

You can follow me, Sheila Bella, on Instagram @realsheilabella!


Here are the links that were mentioned in the podcast!

Grow Your Gram

Online Course Workshop




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